last night i watched a really moving documentary. it was shown for world suicide prevention month. it was on an irish tv station called tv 3. google murder in the family tv 3 ireland and it should come up and you might be able to watch it. it was a documentary about families where a member of the family killed other family members and then killed themselves. there were four families featured on it. a mother who killed her two little girls by drowning them, then she killed herself. a father who crashed his car with his two little boys in it he was trying to kill himself but he didnt succeed in doing that yet he managed to kill his two sons. a mother was on talking about her 21 year old son who killed his 9 year old twin brothers by stabbing them and then he hung himself. and another father who killed his two little girls before killing himself. basically the family members who were speaking in the documentary were saying that if they’d only known how sick their loved ones actually were, if they’d known more about their individual mental illnesses that they might have seen the warning signs, or known what to do to help them better. because of confidentiality here in ireland family members arent really told about your treatment unless you specifically request them to be told. the mother of the 21 year old was saying if she had known how sick her son was he had schizophrenia, bipolar and anxiety disorder, and she was saying how if she knew how ill he truly was, she wouldnt have left her other children with him. the father who killed his little girls, his wife was on and she said a similar thing that she should have been made more aware of his individual symptoms, she should have been able to go in and speak to his doctors. she said she thought he’d only gone in and told them what he wanted them to hear, and he hadnt really given a full and complete picture of what it was like at home. i dont know if i agree that confidentiality should be lifted. i think everyone deserves a right to privacy, unless they are dangerous, none of these people had ever been violent or dangerous in any way, so then i suppose it is about how do you know, how can you tell, when its time to tell family about the persons mental illness. who agrees or disagrees? do you think family should be told about your illness from the get go? would you want that? I urge you to try and watch the documentary if you can.